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by mike_d 1597 days ago
> We also practiced (and I would assume still practice) a variety of denial & deception activities

At Nellis I saw one of these temporary shelters for sensitive aircraft with an overhead image of a different aircraft printed on the top.

If the centerline didn't extend under the covering, I'd be sure that is what we are looking at in the enhanced photo.

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> If the centerline didn't extend under the covering, I'd be sure that is what we are looking at in the enhanced photo.

Why wouldn't they paint such a detail on it? If they went to the lengths of painting the aircraft (as opposed to just covering it) then presumably they want it to be credible.

I'm no expert in this stuff but to me the shadow of the plane matches other shadows pretty well, and also the shadow off the side of the hangar is light and looks like the rib structure, rather than solid so the roof is probably not solid. That seems much harder to fake.

You can also see the roof beams over the plane. Although that kind of detail could be painted on or come through the canvass if it wasn't perfectly tight.

> Why wouldn't they paint such a detail on it?

The shelters are mobile. It wouldn't be practical to paint the runway/taxiway lines on it, and I don't know how you'd get them to line up from different angles.

Ah okay, fair point then. I guess you could lay a rubber strip across it rather than paint. It seems probably real though, so the point is moot.
> I don't know how you'd get them to line up from different angles

E-ink.

E-ink wouldn't line-up with anything without knowing there is only one observer and the coordinates of that observer. It would be better, cheaper, and simpler to have an inflatable replica of whatever it is.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dummy_tank

> without knowing there is only one observer and the coordinates of that observer

Like a satellite? (Agree this would fail with multiple satellites.)

The fact that there's a shadow at the top for the wall, but not on the right side tells me it's not covered with anything solid. (Compare to the shadow of the other building.)

Look at the top of the wall shadow. The canvas/whatever material isn't attached at the peak and is sagging, and you can see the shadow of the top portion of the arch above it.

I'd say they pulled the cover back to the end and it's hanging over the side.

Actually, that's probably not even be a 'wall' shadow, but just the roof covering hanging. Which would sag but otherwise look like a wall.

That's what it looks like to me from the unnatural bends and shadows in the silhouette. The photograph is Big Foot-quality, so it really doesn't matter what it was.
All these incredible security measures, and yet multiple people talking about them on a public forum...
If you have a secret to protect, do you care that people know you're lying to them, as long as they don't know the truth?
Not to mention these toys are usually not kept secret from adversaries, but rather from the unsuspecting public who are funding the toys. Citizens' resistance to military-industrial misadventure is the biggest enemy the Defense Department has acknowledged it has to deal with ..