[echelon]

Nobody wants to build for iPhone or pay 30% to Apple. We build for it because that's where Americans choose to be, and if you want your software business to reach audiences, that's where you have to follow. It frankly sucks.

I don't like the fact that my code is up for review. I don't have the nanny state overseeing my web deploys.

I don't like the fact that the feedback is uneven and arbitrary.

I don't like being forced to give up my own choices for login and contact, essentially ceding my customers to Apple.

I don't like paying thirty percent for being forced to build for a platform I don't even want to be on but have to.

There should have been an open standard for native apps distributed over web. It should have been cross platform, like HTML, so we don't have to build twice or use stupid hacks to share code.

Apple builds hardware people like, but they're monsters.

[scarface74]

Guess what? I as a consumer don’t want to enter my credit card all over the place or have to jump through hoops when I want to cancel a subscription. I want to be able to use “Hide My Email” so when you have a data breach or sell my email I can cancel it. I don’t want to use your lowest common denominator crappy web app. I want to just use an app I pay for and I don’t need to have a “relationship “ with you.

[benreesman]

The whole “if you don’t like it don’t buy it” argument is pretty weak on a lot of the tech giants. Thank whoever failed to secure third-party cookies, it’s not great.

But Apple seems to be pretty squarely in the: “don’t buy it if you don’t like it” vertex.

I use Apple stuff because the cost/benefit is something I can live with.

But most of my friends and colleagues never touch the stuff: it’s desktop Linux connecting to server Linux. Usually Android phones but some people get Pine or old Nokias or whatever.

Is Apple running some Internet-wide cookie scam that I’m unaware of?