[zepto]

You seem to think that it’s ethical for people to be tracked by Facebook against their will and without their consent.

It’s hard to take arguments against Apple on this issue seriously.

All we are talking about is giving the users an option to disable tracking.

The fact they have lost money over this, simply proves that Facebook is a business that can’t survive without deceiving its users.

This isn’t about Apple at all.

[hekec]

Why this isn’t about Apple, if they literally use their market power to destroy competition? They could have done tons of features to benefit users, but they implement those which damage competitors.

[zepto]

We’re taking about a feature which requires companies to get consent before tracking users. That’s all. It applies to everyone, including Apple.

It only harms Facebook because their business only works if users are deceived into being tracked when they don’t want to be.

If users wanted to be tracked, they would opt-in.

That isn’t about Apple destroying anyone. It’s about Facebook building a business on a deceptive practice.

[hekec]

> It applies to everyone, including Apple

Which is false as Apple tracks you across apps without showing you this new prompt.

> That isn’t about Apple destroying anyone.

Could you elaborate on what are you implying here?

Are you saying Apple doesn’t damage anyone with this policy? It is obviously false.

Are you saying damaging competitors and building its own ads ecosystem is not Apple’s primary motivation here? It also seems false, as they build their own ad system, which tracks users.

[9935c101ab17a66]

This is an insane argument.

> They could have done tons of features to benefit users, but they implement those which damage competitors.

Why does Facebook rely on unethical and shady business practices that harm users? Facebook is harming itself. And how is Facebook, in any meaningful way, a competitor to Apple? Apple's ad's business is PEANUTS.

[kitsunesoba]

Fully agree. If anything the choice that Apple is offering its users should be made law so it’s not just an “Apple thing”. If you want to track users you should have to ask them first, and if they say no that’s the end of it.