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by antonioevans 1594 days ago
The timeline for consumer level glasses with ar + vr will begin shipping 2023. "Apple" level ones 2025. These devices will be as ubiquitious as the smartphone or earbuds.
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And perhaps as ubiquitous as Google Glass.
A glorified heads-up display, neither AR nor VR, and well before its time.
Consumers do not want to wear glasses.
I think they will wear them anyways
This comment sums up the state of consumer tech so well.

"Consumers don't want it, but they will use it anyways, because Apple/whoever said so"

Not necessarily. Apple tried to push small phones (for various reasons). People refused, and Apple had to cave.
What are you thinking makes them consumer level? Just cheaper? Because price isn’t the main problem.
Bad take given how well the Oculus Quest 2 is selling.

Primary improvements in OQ2 over previous headsets: Higher Quality + Lower Price + More Portable.

Very easy for me to believe if you just keep improving in those areas you end up with a device that will be present in every lower-middle-class+ household.

I have a valve index, one of the best VR headsets available. It sits in my closet and I haven’t touched it in over a year.

VR is one of those things that’s really fun to use at your friend’s house, but not something you want to use daily.

Because the Valve index is very expensive and needs to be tethered to an also expresive gaming PC via cumbersome cables plus the need to install the IR lighthouses in your living-room, and require maintenance of drivers and VR compatible SW(I was a PC gamer, I know). All this expense, physical installation work and general friction is a non-starter for most consumers and that's why yours sits on the shelf unused.

The Quest(2) is not tethered but has the "gaming PC" built inside of it, no need to bolt lighthouses to your living room walls, and has the frictionless ecosystem polish of the PS/X-box. So it sits charging on my couch, always updating itself and the games in the background, and when I have 10 minutes of boredom during WFH, I can slip it on my head and will instantly resume the last game state I was on, no cables, no PC, no maintaining or curating drivers and SW, none of that stuff. Zero friction. And I can also put it in my backpack and take it to a friend's place instead of having the whole setup bolted to my living room.

I also had work colleagues with gaming PCs buy the Index and return it in the 30 day window after getting bored of the nuisance of cables and SW, then buy a Quest 2 and keep it.

The Quest absolutely killed the Index for the mainstream VR market and got Valve to move in the same direction.

That doesn't explain why someone who has an Index doesn't use it. The setup and expense is just one time. The updates are all automatic via Steam. It's just a matter of putting on the headset and go. And yet, just like @wayoutthere , I find myself using it less and less. Not because lack of content either. It's just so inconvenient and awkward to isolate yourself from the other people in vicinity. Plus you'll be moving your arms without regards of your physical environment. So basically you need a room with a 2 meter by 2 meter clear space and no other people available. Most people don't have that. I used the quest 2. Personally I was not impressed. Graphics are soft and simple compared to the Index and the field of view is so small. You can tether it to a PC for better graphics but then you loose the main advantage of not having a cable. And you still keep a small field of view.
>That doesn't explain why someone who has an Index doesn't use it. [...] It's just a matter of putting on the headset and go.

It definitely is not (saying as a PC gamer for over 15 years). If you don't already use your gaming PC regularly for other stuff so that the whole loading, update and maintenance is part of the daily experience anyway, then, you first have to fire up the gaming PC, wait for it to load, login to Windows, then you might have Windows nagging you for an update, then maybe Nvidia gaming hub or whatever they're calling it nowadays nags you for an update, then maybe you have to reboot, then open the steam launcher, then maybe that also want some updates, then fire up the game, then you have to clear your surrounding environment to make room for the cable tether and make sure you don't trip on it, then put on the Index, then finally you can play.

To most people that wohle ritual gets annoying and puts off the casual gamers who want a quick gaming session every now and then without dealing with any of that crap. The Quest is literally just put on and go since it's just like a console, which is also more popular for gaming than PCs for the convenience and the lack of friction.