[0des]

None of this stuff speaks to me, just looking at your website. Yeah its cute and it's on-par with trends but just give it to me straight in the first sentence- im busy, and already in my workplace so lets start there.

If it's chat with a bupbupbup attached, then tell me its a chat with a bupbupbup attached, if you're trying to do 'its a discord, but for programmers and startuppy types' then say that directly.

Shoot me straight next time, today you lost me.

[dsaffy]

There are parallels to Discord; the HN audience knows Discord well and so if we were only trying to appeal to this audience we would probably market it that way. A large chunk (possibly the majority) of our existing users don't know about Discord though and it doesn't make sense to purely market it in relation to that.

There are also some noticeable differences, particularly: - integrations are focused on work products, eg calendar, rather than what games you are playing etc - rooms (similar to Discord voice channel) can be shared on a calendar for guests - we prioritize different things in screenshare (quality over FPS, since it's for work not gaming)

[0des]

I'm sensing that I'm speaking to the person that wrote the overly verbose copy I lamented above. Please hear my cries, just get to the point ok? I'm not trying to be mean or angry or anything like that, but I'm a person with money who buys things, often just to support them. Your website actively thwarted my attempts to support it by the laborious interface. Had this been 3 or 4 years ago, sure I'd be captivated by the design long enough to stick around and try and suss out what the marketing speak and round edges are telling me, but right now in 2022 it looks like everything else out there. If you don't be different, then at least get to the point about why being different doesn't matter.

[dsaffy]

I am the author. FWIW I totally understand where you are coming from; I'm not happy with our explanation of "What is Pesto?". We will take our own pass on refining this, and I'd also appreciate if you tried it and gave me your thoughts on it. Right now "digital workplace" is the best we have.

[drcongo]

I had to come to the HN comments to find out what this actually is, I was completely baffled by the website.

[e12e]

So it's Teams, but without office 365?

[ghostly_s]

What the heck is a "bupbupbup?"

[justusthane]

Parent just means "chat plus X", I think. Chat plus video. Chat plus rooms. Chat plus bupbupbup.

[0des]

This is the meaning that was intended, thanks.

[terminatornet]

i think that's the mcdonald's theme, ya know "bupbupbup i'm lovin it"

[0des]

lmao this guy doesn't know a bupbupbup

[MarcelOlsz]

>but just give it to me straight

Like pear cider that's made from 100% pears?