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by vanusa 1596 days ago
In the absence of any forcing function they would miraculously end up excluding black students.

Probably true, but it still does not mean that any given forcing function is necessary (or even on balance helpful, considering side effects). Each has to be evaluated on its own merits.

Just saying "We gotta do something!" does not mean that something has to quotas - or evaluation systems functionally equivalent to quotas, as Harvard has been accused of doing.

People who continue to believe that racism both current and historical has no impact call any form of affirmative action a quota.

We're getting off topic, here - which refers to the (soft) quota system alleged to be in use at Harvard.

Whether plaintiffs ultimately prevail or not - which of course can hinge on a myriad of technical factors - theirs is on the surface a plausible argument, based specific criteria (and hard data).

And not, as you describe, an instance of "calling any form of affirmative action a quota".

But even more to the point: If you're going to advocate a forcing function that is either explicitly, or functionally equivalent to quota system - then just call it what it is, please.