[2Gkashmiri]

i have tried to ask people a simple question. "why do you think you know fonts better than microsoft or apple?" not to even talk about linux for a moment here. do these multi trillion dollar companies making operating systems do a shit job at fonts that each and every website developer needs to use google fonts that increase dependency on third parties than using system default fonts?

[oefrha]

Yes, Microsoft does do a shit job at fonts. Many Android vendors too. Don’t even get me started on Linux.

[hexo]

I love my linux fonts, there's nothing wrong with them. You must be out of touch with reality.

[city41]

I don't know the technical details of font implementations. But I do know on my low ppi monitor, Ubuntu fonts look far better than both Windows and MacOS.

[unmole]

> Don’t even get me started on Linux.

I'll bite. What's wrong with fonts on Linux?

[2Gkashmiri]

cool. why don't you kindly ask them to fix the fonts by a bug request instead of everyone just assuming the stuff is shit

[akarlsten]

How productive do you think it would be to open a bug report with Microsoft telling them that Segoe UI/Arial/etc. are hideous? Do you think they will change them for me and/or license some good looking fonts to bundle with Windows?

Complaining and not using them is the only real option.

[2Gkashmiri]

do you have a specific problems with fonts in say gnome or kde team? they would be more responsive for sure.

besides, i refuse to accept that the billions microsoft and apple in particular spent on truetype/cleartype fonts or whatever the tech is, is so poor that you are forced to use something else. i... i mean how can that be.... do you have some proof of this?

>Complaining and not using them is the only real option.

so microsoft and apple will be in your opinion forever content with shipping "shitty fonts" as "defaults" which run on billions of devices, android comes with fonts that run on many billion devices and they ALL are using shitty defaults and these multi trillion dollar companies do not know better than your average hacker news reader. nice. i am in good company lads.

[Leherenn]

Not particularly a fan of custom fonts, but fonts are not one size fits all. Apple or Microsoft default fonts are designed for the general use case, and other fonts might be more suited in a different context. Whether that's worth the cost, that's a different question.

[2Gkashmiri]

come on. i am not expecting to visit an art gallery when i browse the current website or your local news portal or a blog or youtube. do you really think each and every website "needs" to individually tailor fonts to their "exact millimeter position" or otherwise the result will be utter garbage?

>and other fonts might be more suited in a different context

that is why "general use case" is my point. can you point me a specific example of where my current default "noto sans 10 pt" in kde neon is NOT suited for a specific use case? i want to see that unless i use a developer decided font, i would be totally off base, i would miss the plot, i would read garbage, etc etc.