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by uryga 1601 days ago
that's fair, i was in a spicy mood.

there's "esoteric" as in fundamentally complicated, and """esoteric""" as in syntax that's unfamiliar but easily explained w/ a quick web search.

i believe "it's nicer to express some things this way" is a very important practical benefit. for me, "being expressive for experienced users" is ultimately more important to optimize for than """learnablility""", scare quotes intended. because beginners will be beginners for a while, and then they won't. (i dislike e.g. Go for this reason, but let's not get sidetracked)

(before you or someone else asks: i've tutored many beginner/first-time programmers, and yes, i still think a bit of syntactic sugar won't hurt them)