[saagarjha]

> The CIA also, independently of the NSA, has an organization that develops these sorts of attacks that make the NSO group also look like a bunch of kindergarteners as evidenced by the Vault 7 leaks.

Have you actually looked at the Vault 7 leaks? There’s nothing there far beyond the capabilities of a NSO-type actor. NSO is at the level of a nation state, but so are all the nation states. It’s easy to think that funneling infinite money at something will just make you that much better at something, but this isn’t true at all. Otherwise Apple and Google and Microsoft would just be unimaginably distanced from every other smaller company, and I’m sure you agree that they are not ;)

[jmnicolas]

My hunch is that size is harming MS and Google. I bet smaller companies, more focused and with the same budget would achieve more.