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by kafkaIncarnate 1604 days ago
If there's a local disaster that wipes out your office and your friends and all you can think about is data then you should ask a professional to screen you for sociopathy and whether you have any treatable mental illness.

No shame in it, I myself have one, but you shouldn't be concerned with this scenario even if it happens.

Life is too short to waste on ruining your life over planning on how to ruin your life even further after a rare life ruining event has occurred. I doubt you'd be working, or having any real coherent thoughts, for many years in that scenario.

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> If there's a local disaster that wipes out your office and your friends and all you can think about is data then you should ask a professional to screen you for sociopathy and whether you have any treatable mental illness.

So you'd lose your friends and potentially your livelihood and any ability to financial support yourself, or any surviving friends or family, just because you don't want to use cloud backups or a professional backup service with the correct contingencies in-place ?

One could easily imagine a less dramatic scenario where your office is close to your work, you go home with your backups in your backpack; However a flood hits your town, you accidentally leave your your backpack behind at evacuation time. Your office and home are flooded and then your backups and actual data set is destroyed, no one dies but you've lost your company and not just phsycial assets. Seems a little unnecessary ?

I actually have lived in towns where floods, lighting storms and tornadoes have caused situations where this scenario could've easily played out.

I also feel the need to point out there's no need to suggest people need a psychiatrist when planning for a worst case scenario, some people are are just prepared for the worst, whether or not it's just how they're born or their paid /trained to do so.

Born, raised, and never moved out of tornado alley. Work for a major university, our university wide "off-site" backups are a datacenter across the street except for critical student information that is encrypted cloud backed up. We understand fatalism with tornado sirens every 10am the first Tuesday of the month.

What I'm against isn't the cloud existing, it's your 24x7 uptime guarantee during the equivalent of Hurricane Katrina at the cost of over engineering.

If you're an engineer in that scenario, you're either running, helping clear debris, or giving first aid/supplies. Your computer is nonsense at that point and yes it's a sign of a problem if you are clinging onto your devices in such a disaster scenario.

EDIT: Just re-read, I might have gotten you confused with someone on a different thread entirely about Kubernetes... Maybe I typed on the wrong tab, oops. Your comment is about data not uptime.

How many times have you known this to happen?

And how are you currently preparing your company against a solar flare?

I've definitely worked for companies where off-site backups are protected from the impacts of solar flares.

> How many times have you known this to happen?

That's irrelevant, if it can happen, it will happen, and it's too late once you've lost your data. Maybe for some businesses, data isn't important, but I don't know of many?