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by DonHopkins 1603 days ago
Java was a direct reaction to C++, not Objective C.

James Gosling's earlier object oriented PostScript based NeWS interpreter was a lot more like Objective C and Smalltalk than his later Java language was. (But I'm not going to mention the earlier abomination that was Gosling Emacs MockLisp. Oops!)

https://medium.com/@donhopkins/bill-joys-law-2-year-1984-mil...

>Bill Joy’s Law: 2^(Year-1984) Million Instructions per Second

>The peak computer speed doubles each year and thus is given by a simple function of time. Specifically, S = 2^(Year-1984), in which S is the peak computer speed attained during each year, expressed in MIPS. -Wikipedia, Joy’s law (computing)

>Introduction: These are some highlights from a prescient talk by Bill Joy in February of 1991.

>“It’s vintage wnj. When assessing wnj-speak, remember Eric Schmidt’s comment that Bill is almost always qualitatively right, but the time scale is sometimes wrong.” -David Hough

>C++++-=: “C++++-= is the new language that is a little more than C++ and a lot less.” -Bill Joy

>In this talk from 1991, Bill Joy predicts a new hypothetical language that he calls “C++++-=”, which adds some things to C++, and takes away some other things.

>Oak: It’s no co-incidence that in 1991, James Gosling started developing a programming language called Oak, which later evolved into Java.

>“Java is C++ without the guns, knives, and clubs.” -James Gosling

>Fortunately James had the sense to name his language after the tree growing outside his office window, instead of calling it “C++++-=”. (Bill and James also have very different tastes in text editors, too!)

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1 comments

You missed these ones,

"Java Was Strongly Influenced by Objective-C ...and not C++... A while back, the following posting was made by Patrick Naughton who, along with James Gosling, was responsible for much of the design of . Objective-C is an object-oriented mutant of C used NeXTSTEP and MacOS X, and also available with gcc."

https://cs.gmu.edu/~sean/stuff/java-objc.html

"In order to supply a comprehensive and flexible object programming solution, Sun turned to NeXT and the two developed OpenStep. The idea was to have OpenStep programs calling DOE objects on Sun servers, providing a backoffice-to-frontoffice solution on Sun machines. OpenStep was not released until 1993, further delaying the project.

By the time DOE, now known as NEO, was released in 1995,[1] Sun had already moved on to Java as their next big thing. Java was now the GUI of choice for client-side applications, and Sun's OpenStep plans were quietly dropped (see Lighthouse Design). NEO was re-positioned as a Java system with the introduction of the "Joe" framework,[2] but it saw little use. Components of NEO and Joe were eventually subsumed into Enterprise JavaBeans.[3]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributed_Objects_Everywhere