[johanneskanybal]

Do you see the gap between "all will be dandy" and "we will be ai-pets or civilisation will collapse"?

Everything will not be dandy, human progress is a messy thing, not solving inequality or climate concerns will cause a lot of issues, agreed. Being a defeatist about it and extrapolating missed climate goals to total defeat is neither constructive or true.

[pojzon]

Everyone knows its going to be a slow process.

Children of my children are going to face issues like climate migrants or health system collapse.

This taking time doesnt change anything. Fact is that world in a hundred of years will look ALOT worse that it does now. The same it looks worse now in comparison to 30 years ago.

Human race never had to think about solving issues we have now. We finally hit the moment in our evolution where the only way ro solve those kind of issues is to either:

- make miraclous breakthrough in science (like cold fussion)

- all human beings on the planet change mindsets and we become one nation

I simply dont see that happening. We are too early in evolution cycle (at least most of us are).

[johanneskanybal]

I'm kind of beyond trying to win the argument and more thinking what you need. Some books that helped me a few years back when I was overly negative was especially 2 from the bill gates reading list: homo deus and maybe even more so Enlightment Now. This is what it looked like a 100 years ago: https://slides.ourworldindata.org/hunger-and-food-provision/... I worry about the issues my kids will face too but by almost any metric things are getting indisputably better and better. The things you think are life or death issues aren't really yet so people don't care enough but they will, eventually.