[raindeer2]

>"as it is just part of a system no one has any control over" Define "control". A self-driving car is on some level in control over its driving. Otherwise it would not be self-driving. When discussing free will, ppl tend to use the word "free" and "control" differently than when used in everyday language.

It becomes a similar question as asking: if god or "something" created the universe, what created that something. Its turtles all the way down yes.

>"it is part of the natural system we find our selves in". Like exactly everything else that surrounds us :)