[nekcihc]

The main issue here is to remember, that promises has to be given to US, to other countries - especially neighbours and to various clans of Libya and citizens of Libya - especially to young and poor hot-heads who are quick to blame their government and Leader. Then and only then you can have guarantee that you, being as a ruler of Libya are not getting rusty trombone... erm, that might be more pleasant, but apparently it was rusty pipe, that was performed on Kadaffi.

Looking how Putin is performing in Russia, it seems more than clear that he will get his rusty pipe in his anus, because the path of getting it is way too similar... Kadaffi got his rusty pipe, after his Navalny-level opponents were forced out and killed and the ones that came next were not into sophiscated and educated arguments, but went straight in with the pipe... and surprise surprise - they were new generation of Libyans, born in Lkadaffi Libya and bred by Khadaffi.

U.S. Secretary of State James Baker did not had authority to promise that NATO would “not expand one inch eastward” of Germany. Also in a real nonimaginary world, such "promises" and talks has to be realized as written agreements on paper. Completely different from what Russia signed in a very real Budapest Memorandum.

[pydry]

Khadaffi was killed by American backed rebels supported by NATO. NATO might as well have pulled the trigger.

The main issue is that the US state department (led by Hillary at the time) made it abundantly clear to every tinpot dictator in the world with that stunt that the two worst things they can do are A) denuclearize and B) trust America's word.

North Korea took note of what happened in Libya and as a result Kim Jong Un got a nice little tour of Trump's presidential car.

The word of the US is trash. The security guarantees it gives are trash. They've made it clear that they respect power but everything else gets lip service.