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by zamalek 1607 days ago
> you either just got your M1

Yeah, and hold off for now. I'm the guy making sure that new onboards don't get blocked by M1 (as you can't but Intel anymore). Segfaults in docker/qemu (amd64 and arm64) are numerous: I can't build our otherwise boring (and recent) docker images locally - it has to go to a Linux ARM server. What truly bends my mind is that I am getting framerate/audio/input hitching on the desktop when one of the broken containers pegs 3 of the cores at 100% (and it's not just my machine).

It's a circus, wait for M2 or M3 unless your workload is influencing, blogging, and checking email.

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It's weird seeing someone imply that work is either Docker or blogging. Feels a bit too on the nose HN parody to be real.
“Influencing, blogging, email” wtf?

I mostly do React/web dev and some dabbling with SwiftUI. I spent most of 2021 doing that on an M1 Air and it was a joy.

((The only kink I’ve run into was trying to deploy a serverless app; Docker did indeed make that a nonstarter. So I just accomplished it the old fashioned way (a dippy little VM running in a cloud server). Not a deal-breaker.))

Most of my friends are graphic designers who use Adobe apps (nearly all ported to ARM). The only reason most of them haven’t upgraded is because they want 27” iMacs.

What on earth do you think most people do with computers?

That quote is a textbook example of how to ruin a comment with some unnecessary and inaccurate flamebait.
As someone who’s been around for a minute, I’m jadedly amused that your argument is that M2 or M3 will fix these things.

What they will do is be faster and more widely adopted. Docker (and everyone else) will do the heavy lifting to fix those, including any that are specifically Apple bugs.

Assuming that the average person in this thread "enjoys Apple products," holding back on the M1 is a reasonable piece of advice. If you're not an Apple fan, then now is definitely not the time to dip your toes in.

This experience has done nothing but prove my previously unsubstantiated beliefs. I am pushing for Linux laptops at work.

The Docker Desktop app for macOS being a pile of crap has nothing to do with Apple silicon. It's always been like that..
Have you played with Rancher Desktop at all? They just hit 1.0.0 and it’s a replacement for docker desktop on macOS/Windows. Beware, it says kubernetes all over their site but it provides the docker cli and works pretty much the same way.

https://rancherdesktop.io/

Thanks for the suggestion. I'm also planning on giving Lima a whirl, but that's tricky for the same reason I'm stuck with Apple (finance, MDM, the Apple privacy/encryption dominance).
Yeah, don't rely on docker's quemu x86 emulation - it doesn't work.

Everything else has been an absolute breeze though (and so fast!).