[_jal]

Tangent, but using the DMV as a horror-cliche anchor is very state-specific.

I have experience with DMVs in six states. Five of those have always been perfectly fine, nothing to complain about. If I'm competent enough to get my paperwork right, it is just a 15 minute process. New York and California even take appointments, no waiting.

I got my license way back when in Tennessee, and they were incompetent jerks, and that's because Tennessee's entrenched political class goes out of its way to make sure government services suck.

[technothrasher]

The Massachusetts RMV used to be horrendous, but they've cleaned themselves up a lot. I've had little issue getting things done over the past decade or so. Now that they've instituted appointments because of covid, it's even quicker. I hope they never go back. The only thing that is still really broken is their phone system. It's so hard to get anybody on the phone, it's really not worth even trying.

[oauea]

> Tangent, but using the DMV as a horror-cliche anchor is very state-specific.

And very America-focused. Never had any issues at all with our local equivalent.

[dylan604]

assuming "our" is non-American, but non-American is a really large place. ;-) care to narrow it down?

[JJMcJ]

California used to be bad, but the appointments have really helped.

Also, the people who actually work at the DMV are pretty helpful, but they are way overworked. Once again, this is in California.