Ask HN: Is the MVP required in this case?

[fben]

When you have a new idea, you have to think about the market’s needs and your project’s viability. The best way to do this is to start with the MVP, a stripped-down version of your product that helps you confirm whether there’s enough interest in your concept and how you plan to execute it.

But if you want to build something similar to an existing product, with a few upgrades and validated ideas, should you still build the MVP? if yes, what kind of MVP should you build? And do you need to perform idea validation before development?

[codingdave]

If you are coming into an existing market, then you aren't building an MVP to validate the idea, you are building an MVP to match the table stakes -- the feature set that is the minimum set of features that even put you as a viable player in the market. Match that in an MVP, then add on your differentiators.

I've watched teams focus on differentiators before table stakes, and waste literally millions of dollars and years of work, expecting one or two cool features to win the market... but that is not how it works.

[fben]

Thanks for your opinion, I think the right thing to do is to focus on products that have small table stakes, so the MVP won't take a lot of time to build, even adding a few extra features, and therefore, we can enter the market quickly like a good player

[brudgers]

One reason to build an MVP is to force founders to talk to users.

The reason this is important is many founders will avoid doing it.

Founders avoid it because talking to users is mostly hearing rejection.

One of the ways founders avoid talking to users is to invent arguments about why it is not necessary to talk to them.

Another attraction is inventing arguments is easier than finding and talking to users.

Good luck.

[fben]

Thank you for your feedback, it's true that most of the founders believe that the product will generate income passively without any communication with users, so I think good support with acceptable features is much better than bad support with good features

[brudgers]

I am talking about building before talking to users as the problem MVP’s address .