[Loeffelmaenn]

I am not talking about death penalty. I honestly think death penalty is too lenient. After you're dead there is no more punishment. And like you said:

> how many of them even expect to get out alive?

What I would want is suffering for a long time. Now is that justice or vengance? I say it's both.

> Which is probably what they deserve

Is that not what you would describe as just?