[raverbashing]

> is willing to somewhat own his mistakes while the media never has

Your lack of knowledge about media "owning up" to their mistakes is not evidence they don't. Because they do.

I'm sure most people don't see the difference between actual Journalists (and not necessarily with a degree) and some dude talking crap on a microphone but there is.

> "In late 1987, Robert Malone performed a landmark experiment.

Well, so f what? This is 20% of the work that lead us today

Apparently having done that work (if that was actually his actual work) doesn't prevent him from misrepresenting his work spouting crap 30 years after that.

Best definition for Robert Malone is that "he had as much influence on the vaccine as Graham Bell had on the Lady Gaga's song Telephone"

[logicchains]

A sample of some of the patents held by Malone. Note the "Generation of antibodies through lipid mediated DNA delivery" and "Induction of a protective immune response in a mammal by injecting a DNA sequence":

Lipid-mediated polynucleotide administration to deliver a biologically active peptide and to induce a cellular immune response (includes mRNA). P Felgner, JA Wolff, GH Rhodes, R Malone, D Carson. Assigned to Vical, Inc and licensed to Merck. No. 7,250,404, date of issue: 7/31/07 Cited in 105 articles. Priority Date: 3/21/1989.

Lipid-mediated polynucleotide administration to reduce likelihood of subject's becoming infected (includes mRNA). P Felgner, JA Wolff, GH Rhodes, Robert W Malone, D Carson. Assigned to Vical, Inc and licensed to Merck. US Pat. Ser. No. 6,867,195 B1. Date of issue: 3/15/05. Priority Date: 3/21/1989.

Generation of an immune response to a pathogen (includes mRNA). P Felgner, JA Wolff, GH Rhodes, Robert W Malone, D Carson. Assigned to Vical, Inc and licensed to Merck. US Pat. Ser. No. 6,710,035. Date of issue: 3/23/04. Citations: 39 articles. Priority Date: 3/21/1989.

Expression of exogenous polynucleotide sequences in a vertebrate, mammal, fish, bird or human (includes mRNA). P Felgner, JA Wolff, GH Rhodes, Robert W Malone, D Carson. Assigned to Vical, Inc, licensed to Merck. US Pat. Ser. No. 6,673,776. Date of issue: 1/6/04. Priority Date: 3/21/1989.

Methods of delivering a physiologically active polypeptide to a mammal (includes mRNA). P Felgner, JA Wolff, GH Rhodes, Robert W Malone, D Carson. Assigned to Vical, Inc, licensed to Merck. US Pat. Ser. No. 6,413,942. Date of issue: 7/2/02. (cited in 150 articles). Priority Date: 3/21/1989.

Induction of a protective immune response in a mammal by injecting a DNA sequence (includes mRNA). P Felgner, JA Wolff, GH Rhodes, Robert W Malone, D Carson. Assigned to Vical, licensed to Merck. US Pat. Ser. No. 6,214,804, date of issue: 4/10/01. Cited in 360 articles. Priority Date: 3/21/1989.

Induction of a protective immune response in a mammal by injecting a DNA sequence (includes mRNA). P Felgner, JA Wolff, GH Rhodes, Robert W Malone, D Carson. Assigned to Vical, Inc, licensed to Merck. US Pat. Ser. No. 5,589,466. Date of issue: 12/31/96. Cited in 899 articles. Priority Date: 3/21/1989.

Delivery of exogenous DNA sequences in a mammal (includes mRNA). Assigned to Vical, Inc, licensed to Merck. P Felgner, JA Wolff, GH Rhodes, Robert W Malone, D Carson. US Pat. Ser. No. 5,580,859. Date of issue: 12/3/96. Cited in 1244 articles. Priority Date: 3/21/1989.

Generation of antibodies through lipid mediated DNA delivery (includes mRNA). P Felgner, JA Wolff, GH Rhodes, Robert W Malone, D Carson. Assigned to Vical, Inc, licensed to Merck. US Pat. Ser. No. 5,703,055. Date of issue: 12/30/97. Cited in 419 articles. Priority Date: 3/21/1989.

[fer]

Reminder that US patents don't require a working product to be granted. The USPO just takes the money and leaves it to lawyers to defend them. It's common in certain fields to blanket patent inventions before even having looked at their feasibility.

Also all of those are result of the research directed by Felgner, granted to Vical (his own company), and highly hypothetical at the time. Unsurprisingly, most of those, if not all, have expired without putting a product in the market.

mRNA vaccine development has been incredibly incremental and spanning decades. Anyone claiming they're the inventor because they put a few pieces of the puzzle together is incredibly disingenuous.

[gjsman-1000]

He got the ball rolling, and is credited as inventor by Nature. We call Thomas Edison the inventor of the lightbulb even though his lightbulb has little to do with modern LED lighting. Similarly, it is not dishonest to call Robert Malone (in Nature's own assessment) the inventor of mRNA technology.

[raverbashing]

> and is credited as inventor by Nature

Literally nowhere in the quote says that. An important step (if he actually was the main discoverer for those) but not "the inventor". He imagined it (in the same way I can imagine a flying car - but not invent it)

And Nature goes on: "But the path to success was not direct. For many years after Malone’s experiments, which themselves had drawn on the work of other researchers, mRNA was seen as too unstable and expensive to be used as a drug or a vaccine. "

Malone is mainly sour grapes https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2021/08/robert-m...

[gjsman-1000]

The Atlantic article (which I just read) is literally nothing except an attack on his character, everywhere, instead of his claims or perspectives. It just says he was wrong once about something in Israel, but other than that, it leaves his claims wholly unaddressed and uses a cynical tone related to him for everything, because how dare he have different perspective on something he at least helped invent.

I have almost no respect for media that does attacks on character rather than attacks on ideas.

[fer]

He also claims children don't have strokes, that basically 100% of them are caused by COVID-19 vaccines, even though strokes are among the most common causes of death of children (that's from his JRE interview).

That information kills children as it may make people disregard the obvious symptoms and fatally delay treatment.

[raverbashing]

Which claims? The claims that Japan used Ivermectin (already proven false)? Or his other claims that have been debunked thoroughly by more serious people?

Thanks for providing your opinion on the article, it's a good gauge on how his fans see things.

[blitzar]

You left off the important one;

5G mind control and human tracking via MRNA vaccine. Robert W Malone, Bill Gates.