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by webdood90 1611 days ago
The point is to reduce critical cases that cause hospital visits. Our system is overwhelmed as is.

The fact that this still needs to be explained 2 years into this is ridiculous.

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Was that really the point?

When people anxiously awaited their chance to get the vaccine in January 2021, were they thinking "ooh I can't wait to free up hospital beds"? Or was it "great now I can be immune and be done with COVID"?

I mean, both? I think the vast majority of people I knew (UK, in my 20s) knew that the main reason we were locked down was to minimize the risk of the NHS being so overrun it couldn't perform basic healthcare.

Of course personally we all just wanted to not be locked down any more but I don't actually think that many of us were staying in for our own sakes - we knew the long term risk to our own health if we were to catch it was fairly low. Very biased sample, of course.

If the system is overwhelmed, then hospitals shouldn't have fired workers who didn't want to get vaccinated.
> Our system is overwhelmed as is.

I have yet to see proof that most of the system is "overwhelmed". Sure there are hotspots here and there but this idea that the system is on the brink of collapse is hyperbole. And even if it is true, these dudes had 2 years of our time to figure out how to deal with it. 2 years of our short lives we've given so they could fix this capacity issue. Where is the results? Why is it the general public's fault at this point?

Do you realize how fucking stupid you sound?

Is there a time limit on a pandemic? Do you think these are trivial problems we're dealing with here? Like what world do you live in, bud?

I don't have any patience with people like you anymore. How did you get your head so far up your fucking ass? Fucking christ man.

> I don't have any patience with people like you anymore. How did you get your head so far up your fucking ass? Fucking christ man.

My greatest clue that the last 2 years has been more about hysteria, politics and unchecked, ungrounded fear than an actual severe disease has been reactions like yours. Seriously? I'd ask you what world you live in where you think any of this makes a lick of sense at all? What world do you live in where it is okay to say what you just said? How is it not possible that people can have alternate, equally valid opinions as yours?

2 years is a long time to figure out how to deal with covid patients in a hospital. Long time. We have virtually unlimited resources to do whatever we want to fix it. We could have built a new story on every nurse and doctors house for far less than the costs of these lockdowns and other non-pharmaceutical interventions.

2 years of creating a corrosive, toxic environment where so many people think it is impossible to question any of this. Like, how is it impossible that smart, well meaning people disagree with "the narrative"? Are we all expected to fall in line with a relative handful of anointed "experts"--many who will feel almost no effects from any of their prognostications over the last two years?

Why is it so hard to believe we could have fixed the "overwhelmed hospital" problem in under two years? Like, it takes barely any imagination to come up with ways to deal with it. All kinds of ways to get people to care for sick covid patients. Train people in adjacent fields, shovel money at doctors and nurses thinking about quitting, etc. It really isn't so hard to come up with ideas.

Why is the default answer for all this to blame the public, shame them, shame people who question anything, and force people to sacrifice what little short life they have on this planet? I mean how toxic and corrosive have these health "experts" made us? These "experts" are ripping apart the social fabric that binds us together. It's horrific.

Move on.