[dylan-m]

It was the same for me. Somehow, once you look past the fact that everything is at Apple's mercy and I can't make an app that runs on my phone unless I buy a computer I don't want to run a desktop OS I don't like (boo!), iOS actually better implements Android's promise of openness.

Apple is in a position where they can't expect everyone to be happy with iCloud, which is great because it means they actually put effort into supporting (decently!) a range of third party services. Siri generally isn't as smart as Google Assistant, but it also isn't completely obsessed with Google services. That is to say, unlike Google Assistant, every app on my phone - without exception - actually knows what is on my NextCloud calendar. And it actually gets useful information from my email to do helpful things with.

On the other hand, if you look at how Android has progressed over the years, I think Google has been trying very hard to forget about Android's past as a flexible operating system that exists outside of Google's ecosystem.

[cma]

> On the other hand, if you look at how Android has progressed over the years, I think Google has been trying very hard to forget about Android's past as a flexible operating system that exists outside of Google's ecosystem.

They don't even try with the stuff they extended android with, Android Wear and android's Daydream: no third party stores allowed, only loading via ADB.