[oxymoran]

It was always a security risk because google has always been spying on you…nobody is forcing you to buy android phones.

[pdpi]

This is not a helpful attitude.

I have plenty of issues with Google's posture on privacy, but I don't expect them to steal credentials for other services, drain my bank account, blackmail me based on personal information, or any such thing. Conflating the two removes a lot of much needed nuance from the discussion.

[8note]

I believe that a bad actor within google could do those things.

[pdpi]

"A bad actor within the manufacturer" and "the manufacturer itself" are entirely different threats. There's no particular reason why Google would be more exposed to that sort of bad apple than Apple, or any other provider.

[ajkdhcb2]

You say this like there's an alternative. Closed source iOS that scans all your messages for CSAM?

Ironically I hated financially supporting Google but felt I had no choice but to get a Pixel to use GrapheneOS and have 5 years of security updates