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by stereolambda 1614 days ago
I'd say that the view against ANN gives humans (especially researchers) more "dignity", in the sense that we still need to figure out some deep stuff and not just add hardware. I wouldn't treat this as an argument either way, just an observation.

Heuristically, we came to be by a very dumb process of piling up newer generations. If my pet would communicate with me on the level of GPTx, I would be very impressed. That's why nowadays I have some scepticism for the ANN critics' arguments, though think it would be neat if they were right.

The thing that I dislike the most in these discussions is the pervasiveness of the AGI concept and the assumption of a linear scale of intelligence. Again, I can intuitively say that I'm more intelligent than my pet: but to quantify this, we'd need to use something silly like brain size, or qualitative/arbitrary things like "this being can talk". I think that human intelligence is a somewhat random point in a very multi-dimensional space, one that technology may never even have a reason to visit. But people tend to subscribe to the notion that this is the very important "point where AGI happens".

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> If my pet would communicate with me on the level of GPTx, I would be very impressed.

GPTx is not communicating with anyone. It is generating text that resembles text it had in its training set. The fact that human text is normally a form of communication doesn't make generating quasi-random text communication in itself. GPTx is no more communicating than a printer is when printing out text.

A cat or dog leading you to their empty food bowl is actual communication, and they are capable of much more advanced communication as well (especially dogs). The fact that it doesn't look like written text is not that relevant. They are of course worse than GPTx at producing text, just like they are worse than a printer at writing it on a blank page.

I wonder how well would a dog+GPT/transformer combo work.