[logicchains]

Have you looked at the US or European vaccine adverse effects databases (VAERS and VigiAccess)? There are literally over an order of magnitude more adverse effects and deaths reported since the rollout of the covid vaccines than for all vaccines in the 20+ years before that (including the flu vaccine that roughly half of Americans take every year). And none of the "vax-is-safe" people have provided any convincing explanation for this other than asserting without evidence that the rate of adverse effect reporting has increased.

[djinnandtonic]

VAERS is self-reported (and you can report for others) and not verified. We live in an age where a small segment of the population is highly motivated to cast doubt on vaccines.

Also, there has never in history been as quick and wide a rollout of a vaccine as COVID-19. If a database were tracking every negative outcome for a person after taking a vaccine - even if the vaccine didn't cause it - we would see a spike. You'd see a worrying spike in negative outcomes if we spun up a database that recorded adverse reactions after eating a banana, for example; doesn't mean bananas are killing people.

[sudosysgen]

That's pretty obvious, of course. The more media attention on side effects there is, the more likely it is that people will report side effects, including incidental side effects.

[distracted_boy]

Regarding these self-report services, it seems that an overwhelming majority of (self) reported side-effects are due to nocebo responses[1].

[1] https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle...

[2] https://arstechnica.com/science/2022/01/up-to-76-of-covid-va...

[bjtitus]

> There are literally over an order of magnitude more adverse effects and deaths reported since the rollout of the covid vaccines than for all vaccines in the 20+ years before that (including the flu vaccine that roughly half of Americans take every year)

Putting aside the obvious difference in societal impact and media coverage, which the modern flu has never received, it seems like the drastic differences in vaccine uptake absolutely contributes to this.

Flu vaccine uptake in 18+ was estimated at 45.3% in 2018-2019, 37.1% in 2017–18, and 43.3% in 2016-2017 [1]. It's sitting at 76% for COVID right now [2].

1: https://www.cdc.gov/flu/fluvaxview/coverage-1819estimates.ht... 2: https://usafacts.org/visualizations/covid-vaccine-tracker-st...