[luhego]

I think this is one of the main reasons why Firefox keeps decreasing in popularity. They focus so much on activism instead of building a great browser. The best activism they could do is to improve Firefox so the Chrome market share decreases. After using Firefox for many years, I recently switched to Brave which has everything I wish in a browser(minus the Crypto stuff which you can disable).

[Markoff]

why brave though? It lacks even basic customization options compared to Vivaldi, been Firefox user for years, then I used for year or two Edge, but got sick being afraid of every new update messing things up, now I moved to Vivaldi, tried also Brave but lack of options was horrible, if I wanted barebone browser i would go for Chromium woolys

[jatone]

its almost like they have different departments.....

[iakov]

I never understood this argument. Yeah they have different departments, but wouldn’t it be better (for us, Firefox users) to fire the virtue signaling marketing types and funnel the money into developing their dying browser?

Oh wait, that’s exactly the opposite of what Mozilla is doing - they fired a hundred of engineering people some time ago. I guess the activist talking heads stayed though.

[twelve40]

To play devil's advocate, in 2022, how much is an established browser's success is determined by technical merit vs. the economic clout of the entity behind it? Suppose, FF releases the browser that is 5x better than Chrome. Most people wouldn't notice! Microsoft installs Chromium-based browser by default, and Google, which is what most people use for search, gently pushes everyone to install Chrome. Apple obviously also defaults to non-FF. There really seems to be no pressing need for an average user to go out of their way for a better browser experience.

Other than PR and growth hacks and maybe activism, which is what they seem to be trying now?

[jatone]

I wasn't making an argument. I was simply pointing out different groups have different priorities even within a single organization.

I wish firefox would focus on getting the browser up to snuff for daily usability things like basic profile switching and better defaults for privacy.

but c'est la vie.