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by s1artibartfast 1613 days ago
I don't know what to say. I thought the article structure made sense but I guess it didn't for you. What you call strawmen is what I commonly hear as arguments for mandates.

Thesis: Vaccine are good but mandates are bad

Background: advantages to vaccines, transmission data, current risks

Refute common arguments for mandatory vaccination 1) protect the vaccinated. 2) decrease transmission 3) hospital capacity 4) prior infection is inadequate

Review downsides to mandates: Harms and inconvenience to those who choose not to be vaccinated.

Conclusion

I think they key point they are arguing for is in the "bottom line" conclusion:

>If this were really about science, why would we not allow previous infection, which confers all the benefits of vaccination, if not more, the same rights? Does it not seem that mandates are having the opposite effect to what is desired? Instead of increasing vaccination rates are mandates instead hardening and alienating the unvaccinated further? If we are being honest with ourselves, are the mandates truly for the protection of the vaccinated, or do they exist to punish the unvaccinated?

I agree it would have been clearer if they stated their position as a declaration, opposed to a question, but it is right there

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Which of his arguments do you hear as arguments for mandates by the people who can implement mandates? Only hospital capacity. After hospital capacity is not a problem, governments can treat it as endemic. Every single non-Covid-zero government is in agreement about this.

Even your quoted section demonstrates the author's sloppy thinking. Once again, mandates aren't to protect the vaccinated but to prevent hospitals from being overrun. Second, that is not an argument against mandates but an argument for a modified mandate. Third, his argument for a modified mandate is also wrong because we don't allow previously infected people to avoid the vaccine for the same reason we didn't give them immunity passports. Doing so sets up incentives to make the next pandemic even worse.

Joe Rogan brings a bunch of sloppy thinkers including this author on his show, and his listeners don't understand why no government in the world is listening to these quacks. All you have to do is think about the other side instead of passively listening to what the radio guy says, and it's easy to figure out.