[bairrd]

Flu season doesn't lead to insanely high excess death rates, and overwhelm hospital capacity, making things like biking now a much higher risk activity as any visit to a hospital due to a broken bone or something is far more likely to result in a lack of proper treatment. That we are in 2022 and still discussing this leads me to, very grimly, believe that we are in some period of hyper-darwinism, where this train of thought will only go away once the virus has incapacitated/killed those who seem to not understand what the word "excess deaths" means.

[mistercheph]

Yes, maybe after that it will come for people who can't tell plural from singular. I am all for grammatical punishments of the most grim variety.

[bairrd]

Willful missing of the point. Also not implying that the outcome is anything approaching a good outcome, just a grim Darwinian one, where thinking responding to covid in any way to improve life expectancies is just some sign of weakness. Our further atomization and slide towards a individualist society will leave us living shorter, less collaborative lives where we will try and treat cancer with a juice fast or some nonsense, instead of transforming our fundamental relationship to healthcare away from a not-for-profit one. But one is something a consumer can do, the other requires collective action, and that's only for the hysterical weaklings to dream of, so instead we will just virtue-signal our way towards dying at 30 on a bowflex machine after taking unregulated gym substances or whatever in a failed attempt to steel ourselves against our lack of societal fabric and collective ability to combat anything.

[refurb]

Feel free to hide under a rock avoiding covid while ignoring all the other risks you take everyday.

Hospitals hit capacity during flu seasons - did you wear a mask everyone, keep your kids home, work from home and cancel all travel plans? I’ll bet you didn’t even know they were at capacity.

I’m vaccined, I’m moving on with life.

[bairrd]

Risk mitigation whilst hospitals are at capacity? Nah, gotta live my life! Otherwise they might perceive me as weak-willed, and more important than my continued existence is to ensure I am not perceived as a weakling! Anything else is others being hysterical! Fuck doctors, am I right!

[refurb]

Hospitals hit capacity during flu season all the time.

Did you stay at home, keep your kids from school and cancel all travel plans last flu season when hospitals got overwhelmed?

You probably didn’t even know they were overwhelmed, did you?

[esalman]

Last flu season a bunch of my family friends did not die from flu, nor did any relative suffer long term consequences from flu.

My coworker from 5 years back died yesterday. He is 2 years younger than me. I am not even 40.

[refurb]

So it doesn't affect you so those tens of thousands dead from the flu don't matter?

Not sure what your point is?

[esalman]

Straw man argument.