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by NicoJuicy 1613 days ago
There's a difference between effectiveness against "new cases" vs. heavy illness.

Deaths/severity is not rising even though there are a lot of new cases.

Deaths ( = going down): https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/worldwide-graphs/#...

Severe cases ( small increase): https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/worldwide-graphs/#...

While new cases > x 7 https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/worldwide-graphs/#...

Additionally, it should be noted that the severe cases with Omicron are almost all unvaccinated ( not even boostered). If you want to check stats, please try to find a source that seperates delta ( which is not gone!) from Omicron.

Edit: And since it's January. An honest comparison would be Januari 2021 with Delta because of family / friend gatherings. It's a pretty busy social time ;)

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Thousands of Americans dying a day isn't bad enough? How much worse does it need to get before it's something we should still be very concerned about?

And deaths are in fact rising. According to your chart they were around 6000/day (7 day average) on Jan 1 and are 7600/day in the most recent data two weeks later.

First of all. Not thousands, but 571 as i checked on a population of 320.000.000 in the US and with a reasonable amount of people unvaccinated ( and they chose for this, other people aren't responsible for other people's decisions)

And as mentioned in my above comment.

Can you show me how many are dying because of Omicron specific and how many are related to previous Delta infection that were already admitted in the hospital?

I'm not saying people aren't dying. Lockdowns aren't in place for the flu and that has also 52 k. deaths per year ( = 145 per year) and is much less contagious as Omicron. Also, Delta is not gone yet.

You have to compare numbers with reality. Otherwise I can ask you at how many deaths per year you would reduce restrictions or at what death/severity rate.

0 is definitely impossible as some people will remain unvaccinated. You could have the same argument that 10 people are dying per year...

PS. Compare it with December 2020/January 2021 which would be comparable with visiting family/friends multiple times. We aren't anywhere near that peak with *7 infections.

Most states don't report deaths on the weekend, which is why you should look at the 7-day average. It was 3,866 deaths on Friday.
Sure. Compare cases vs deaths over a 7 day average with a comparable timing ( eg. January 2021)

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/worldwide-graphs/#...

Lots of more new cases, less severe ones.

It works both ways to have a fair comparison.

Deaths per day is higher on the chart you linked than it was not too long ago.
Did you take end year meetings into account?

We are just out of the busiest social time of the year.