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by ra423 1610 days ago
> And then go back to my family - because not worrying about Wayland, that new driver or that new update or "that new thing "- suprsingly leaves a lot of time that you can spend with your family :)

What about the times when windows take forever to "getting things ready". I once spent around two hours updating windows. And just after the reboot there were ten new updates.
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pimeys 1610 days ago
My partner was about to get back from the office, bringing food. It was 8pm, and everything set for tomorrow with Windows. Except at this point it needed to update, and for a specific reason the computer needed to be in a working condition the next day and updates of course installed. Two hours later it was still updating, and we were eating in the end 11pm...

My NixOS machine updates in a few minutes even when it needs to compile some custom things. And it will not change settings without me changing the configuration. If it does, I can just reboot to the older version and file a bug report...

Edit: has anybody tried to install Windows on ZFS or Btrfs? If update does something you don't like, just boot to a snapshot and get rid of the update.

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rbanffy 1610 days ago
> has anybody tried to install Windows on ZFS or Btrfs?

I used to do banking on a VirtualBox immutable disk image. I only made it mutable when it was time to regular updates, then made it immutable again for using the bank and government software (in Brazil you had some govt issued tools that made life easier). You can also make it work with filesystem snapshots as well as letting VirtualBox manage its own snapshots for you.

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SantiagoElf 1610 days ago
Have been Windows 10 insider since 2016ish maybe, before that installing whatever WzoR iso put out. This PC I am writing from - had Windows 10 installed on it 2018 with Windows Insiders builds, upgraded to Windows 11 around August, joinned the beta/canary channel, right now I am on:

https://changewindows.org/platforms/pc/releases/windows-11-c...

[Version 10.0.22538.1010]

I had ZERO (0) issues with upgrades or downtime.

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rbanffy 1610 days ago
> I had ZERO (0) issues with upgrades or downtime.

I too could make coffee or read a book while apt or dnf do their magic, but the truth is I can continue working while they do it, probably because, unlike Windows, they can delete and replace open files while they install, making the update-on-reboot issue on Windows a non-issue on Linux machines.

It's been a while since I had a BSOD on Windows, but I have been forced to restart it quite a few times when something didn't work or stopped working, or the VPN went crazy or some other malfunction. Unscheduled downtime is still very much an issue on workstations and I wouldn't want to look into Windows Server and how it handles this issue.

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vetinari 1610 days ago
Every single half-year release of Windows 10 took more than one hour on both of my windows computers (using upgrade assistant; windows update never offered an update). They are no slouchs either, one is i7 and the other is Threadripper, both with ample ram and disk space.

They also break Intel ANS on every single release - i.e. VLANs and LACP will stop working until Intel releases a new version. For Windows 11, Intel gave up and there will be no ANS anymore[1].

And the last, january 2022 update? It casually killed L2TP...

[1] https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000...

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