[thenerdhead]

Yep. It's a very logical, data-driven mindset that is only concerned about "pushing the needle closer" rather than providing actual value.

Many of the mechanisms of how those teams operate are flawed. You may have filed the same issue that was closed previously because of low upvotes, but now there are multiple reports of it! It's almost an anti-pattern of being data-driven.

Most companies know that business metrics follow great products when teams have full autonomy, competence, and relatedness. (i.e. VS Code, JetBrains Suite, etc). Sadly in the process they end up killing those very things that made them successful when reaching certain scale.

The PM discipline is getting more definition in the industry, but to your point, hardly anybody practices the art. The art to me is being "data inspired", not driven or informed. It's hard for PMs in big tech to do that nowadays unless it part of the culture from the top-down or taught/mentored from the bottom-up.

[dexterous]

The COO at my last job kept touting the aphorism "Data Trumps Opinion" to the point where he had T-shirts made with that (facepalm!)

I'm just glad those just sat on his table and never made it onto anyone's back.

[thenerdhead]

Uck. I get that people can feel that way as opinions are often way worse, but tshirts? Haha