[Grismar]

Sounds to me like the author should be using Windows, because it is not Apple and not Linux, but they have been duped into believing that this is the OS that shall not be named, if you want a shot at being a cool kid. I share the author's disappointment over no commercial business appearing to be able to take Linux and make it into a consistently good experience for new and veteran users alike - but that's probably more to do with the Linux crowd consisting mostly of people who seem to consider free as important as Free. All that said, I learnt next to nothing about Framework, so yeah - just Linux-on-the-desktop bashing.

[aunty_helen]

I've used Windows and Windows Server before. I helped guys from MS debug an issue in the bowels of Windows at one point in my career.

But I can't really use Windows because of the type of work I do. It's a pain dealing with multiprocessing in Windows and Linux envirnoments to name a key sticking point.

While yourself and a few others have pointed out that this is mostly just Linux bashing, Framework isn't entirely without fault here. Some things I didn't mention on the article because it was already pretty long and boring, and also some issues I've had since.

In total, the issues I've had that I feel framework shares the bulk of responsibility for:

- parasitic battery drain of around 40% overnight (win/linux + exacerbated by your choice of expansion ports)

- the auto brightness

- still yet to be able to connect anything via bluetooh

- the speakers are terrible, think early nokia phone terrible

- the fn key placement

- when I put the laptop down on a surface with the screen open the screen will flex open to the point its facing the ceiling

- usbc expansion ports don't go all the way in. They're also very tight but I think that would loosen up over time

- the touchpad, while I haven't used it on windows, I would be suprised if it was better.

Overall, I like:

- keyboard

- 3:2 ratio

- 300 vs 800$ for 64gb ram

- being able to upgrade to a bigger hdd later on

So yeaaa it's not just Linux bashing and I did try to stick to the beaten path and installed the two different flavours they said would work.

[viraptor]

> the fn key placement

You can easily swap those in bios in this and pretty much any laptop.

> when I put the laptop down on a surface with the screen open the screen will flex open to the point its facing the ceiling

This is an advertised feature and popular in a few laptop models. https://frame.work/blog/display-and-customizable-bezels For me it's a safety feature where the laptop with something or someone on top will go flat rather than break.

[aunty_helen]

Thanks :) I've done that now. It was something I hadn't looked any deeper into after altering the caps lock to esc and not seeing a option to swap fn in tweaks.