[adrianN]

Hopefully EVs will put a natural end to that madness. We could satisfy much of our primary energy demand simply by replacing energy crops with PV.

[teeray]

EVs are wonderful in certain places: cities, suburbs, etc. Where I sit it’s -10F, and everyone with an EV either can’t start it at all or has to ride in it with no heat—-which can be life-threatening. EVs will reduce our demand, but never eliminate it due to such edge cases.

[adrianN]

I'm pretty sure we don't need millions of hectares for Ethanol to satisfy the demand of the five people living in the frozen tundra.