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by throwaway894345 1612 days ago
Probably no worse than the alternatives. Just about everything is going to be easy to upgrade except possibly the Kubernetes masters (and even that isn’t so bad if you can spare a bit of downtime).
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For sure no worse than the alternatives. I also don't care about downtime. But I'm looking for something that minimizes the overheads over not self-hosting.

I'd love to prove Moxie Marlinspike wrong that "people don't want to run their own servers, and never will." (https://moxie.org/2022/01/07/web3-first-impressions.html) This is the key bottleneck in getting people to run their own servers.

For sure. There’s not much of an economical argument for self-hosting—if you’re doing it, it’s almost implied that you’re doing it for fun. Although having run a small (but really scaleable c/o k8s) homelab for <$2/month, I’m not sure I’d save much effort versus using some PaaS or cloud provider now that I know what I’m doing. Like I’d need a real load balancer and a few other things so we’re talking < ~$100/month to productionize.
I still believe :) I'm looking not for an economic argument but for a strategic one. I think[1] a self-hosted setup with minimal dependencies can be more resilient than a conventional one, whether with a vendor or self-hosted.

https://sandstorm.io got a lot right. I wish they'd paid more attention to upgrade burdens.

[1] https://github.com/akkartik/mu

Fine, take my upvotes. :)

In all seriousness, that’s an interesting perspective that I hadn’t considered.