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by nwiswell 1616 days ago
Very well for Oregon.

But it's a little more nuanced than pay for two reasons.

1) Intel is a little like proto-Amazon. There is a preference for hiring people directly out of grad school and inducting them into the cult while they are still naive, so that's just what they come to expect for work-life balance.

2) The whole semiconductor industry is like this, and particularly so for production fabs. If you have domain expertise, you have no alternative work-life balance choice short of a career change.

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> There is a preference for hiring people directly out of grad school and inducting them into the cult while they are still naive, so that's just what they come to expect for work-life balance.

Heh. I once interviewed for an internal SW position that dealt with fab automation. I openly told them in the interview that I knew about their work culture and that was of great concern to me.

Interviewer: I know what you mean, and I promise the org has been working to improve the conditions. It's not as bad as it was.

Me: Great! However, for me the comparison isn't the "old you" but the rest of Intel.

<Back and forth>

Interviewer: Look, you're not going to get a 40 hour/week job anywhere in the SW industry!

Me: Umm... All my SW engineer roles at Intel were 40 hour/week jobs. I haven't worked on weekends in years. <Proceed to list friends at big name SW companies who also don't work more than 40 hours/week>

Interviewer: OK. We normally interview people straight out of college who don't know any better.

Needless to say, I didn't take that job.

When I was a green badge SWE at Intel all my (blue badge) coworkers were 15-20 years older than me. No one my age stuck around.
I assume that's because of pay. Working conditions for SW folks is fairly decent at most of the company, except possibly for firmware folks.

I suppose some people didn't like their status in a HW company.

I was in Validation.