[mcv]

The tipping situation is absolutely stupid, but hardly the only problem. And shitty entitled customers contribute to both issues here: they treat employees poorly, and they tip poorly. Businesses should probably just kick those customers out. If you can't behave like a decent person, the business shouldn't have to accept you as a customer.

Ultimately, of course, the market will correct itself. If these service jobs are terrible enough, nobody will do them anymore, and those customers will just have to cook their own food, or accept shitty overpriced service from the few companies willing to serve them, and willing to pay employees enough to deal with that shit.

But it will be a loss to all decent people who treat people with respect and want to pay well for good service. If you want to keep those, your only option is to kick the entitled assholes out. Or you'll have no employees left.

[inetknght]

> Ultimately, of course, the market will correct itself.

We're at where we are because of market forces. I doubt the market will "correct itself" when the market doesn't see anything wrong.

[mcv]

What we are seeing is the market correcting itself: service jobs are unattractive, so people leave those jobs. If nobody is willing to pay more and offer better customer behaviour for those jobs, those services will simply disappear. That is how the market "corrects" itself.

I'm all for better wages and labour conditions, but as long as that doesn't, happen, these jobs and services will continue to disappear. I hope people are aware of the fact that they're currently effectively voting for no fast food, no restaurants, and no theatres, because that's what they're going to get if nothing changes.

[lostlogin]

The way this gets ‘fixed’ will be hilarious to see. Maybe low cost housing provided by a mega-corp but paid by the taxpayer.

Higher wages will not be the solution I’m sure.

[rnk]

We already have a portion of that with minimum wage being paid to 100s of thousands of Walmart workers whose workers also qualify for various forms of welfare, and walmart also campaigns against raising minimum wage.

[ZeroGravitas]

> Ultimately, of course, the market will correct itself.

Or it'll be a "market for lemons" situation and someone will need to rewrite the rules of the market in order for the best thing to happen and/or it just won't get better.

[stainforth]

> the market will correct itself

When we can abandon this kind of thinking we will be able to solve problems again.

[bostik]

> Ultimately, of course, the market will correct itself.

Historically major corrections have been called something else, and the adjustments have been administered through blood and steel.