[pessimizer]

Protesting that workers aren't getting paid by withholding money from workers is a rationalization. In the best outcome, the customer would be paying exactly the same amount that they pay now, or more, it just wouldn't be separated or optional in the bill.

You can tell whether people complain about tipping because of fairness or just because they want a discount by whether they also complain about mandatory, fixed percentage tipping, which is really just a service fee under another name.

[voltagedivider]

> In the best outcome, the customer would be paying exactly the same amount that they pay now, or more, it just wouldn't be separated or optional in the bill.

I'd pay a premium just to avoid the distasteful master-servant relationship. It's insulting to assume that the customer would enjoy lording over others.

> just because they want a discount

It never crossed my mind that people do this. That's lousy.

[lotsofpulp]

I have no qualms paying whatever a vendor wants to label or however they want to itemize the receipt as long as the total number I owe is conveyed to me when I request to purchase something.

Also, a customer does not owe workers anything in the USA. Employers owe workers.