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It’s objectively dumb to look at a service provider and conflate that with what the proponents are talking about.

Have you considered that you are in the wrong decade? Its year .. 13..? Its time to be up to speed on this.

If you run into a proponent that is also conflating these things you should simply correct them about the difference between onchain activities and third party centralized service providers, which means educating yourself first.

The only reason the hacker gets to keep the funds and have no civil or criminal liability is because of them using the actual decentralized rails and uncensorable contracts such as Tornado.cash