[byteface]

I remember the world before the internet. Full of rumour and supersition and gossip and people you go to for certian knowledge about things. Lots of people outside, all over the place. climbing trees, riding bikes. Filling the spaces. Now you come home from being on it all day working. your family are all on it. don't talk to you, bark if you interupt them. You can access all the facts and know everything. I kinda hate it. Here I am on it.

[pragmatic]

“Full of rumour and supersition and gossip and people you go to for certian knowledge about things.”

The more things change…

We’ve recreated that online. There was a brief golden age when only the early adopters were online with visions of a digital utopia and now it’s just like real life but crazier.

The same thing will happen if we go to mars. It will just be the same stuff just on another planet.

Wherever you go, there you are.

[whatshisface]

The people of Mars would likely be somewhat different from the people of Earth, since they'd be so heavily influenced by whatever idiosyncrasies they inherited from the first colonists.

If there are genetic propensities to whatever would make someone healthy enough to travel to Mars, intelligent enough to run the machines, yet disconnect enough from Earthbound society that they wouldn't mind leaving the planet, that is what Martians would generally be like.

[byteface]

funny you say this. i was reading about peri wigs the other day. and apparently washington didn't wear one. he fashioned his hair that way. I guess he didn't have syphilis and wanted to fit in.

[supperburg]

It’s true but you’re skipping over the early golden age that mars will also have. Life is surfing and early golden ages are the waves.

[Apocryphon]

Growing up, I had a friend with a desktop PC in his room and I was dumbstruck and intrigued by the idea of being able to stay all day on a computer, gaming and IMing and surfing. Now we are all like him, sitting at a desk the entire day. Sometimes the desk follows us.

[Forgeties79]

Without the internet I wouldn’t haven’t met some of my best friends or discovered my passion for filmmaking. I’d also probably be still using a lot of questionable language and espousing some pretty whacky ideas like I did in high school. Honestly the internet improved my life. I get what you’re saying but it’s sort of an old take and lacks nuance IMO.

[sneak]

> I’d also probably be still using a lot of questionable language

All sorts of cultures, online and off, involve members policing the ingroup for transgressions against the internal culture.

Language isn't "questionable", its usage is. There's no such thing as a bad word.

The culture of the internet (and, as a subset, that of 2022 mass social media in the english-speaking world, which is itself a subset of internet mass social media) is mostly not because of the internet, but because of the participants and the state of the wider world. The internet isn't responsible for wokeness, it's just the medium through which this particular human culture phenomenon travels.

[Forgeties79]

>it’s just the medium through which this particular human culture phenomenon travels. That’s exactly what I’m saying. The internet exposed me to other ways of thinking and more diverse people. I’m not sure what all that other stuff is about.

[Liquix]

We can acknowledge that the internet has done great things for people while simultaneously acknowledging that it is deeply altering the fabric of society.

[Forgeties79]

I’d never disagree it’s altering the fabric of society. But I’m not sure I’m prepared to say it’s a net negative, which the comment above me definitely implied.

[byteface]

I could totally relate. who couldn't? Didn't that lack nuance? I'm only just past 40, and I don't take the current for granted either btw. I guess it depends what your counting in your net. Maybe we lost something.

[sneak]

> I kinda hate it. Here I am on it.

I don't think you hate it, otherwise you'd do something else.

[Forgeties79]

Oh come on dude.

[sneak]

actions > words

[tsol]

People used to make jokes about me because I was on my computer all day. This was back before it was big, when people just used it for AIM instant messenger. I never understood how they could not be amazed by it. I'd imagine how amazing it would be if computers could be faster, portable, wireless.. how much could be possible. Now all those people are on Facebook and have their phones glued to their eyes. I still use computers and devices a lot, but having spent so many hours lost in cyberspace I have a certain dislike for using computers without getting some value back. I also find staring at screens in the middle of conversations to be annoying, while most of these people don't have a problem with it. It's a weird irony. I kind of hate it too, especially all the misinformation that spreads nowadays