[yarpen_z]

How does it happen that in such discussions there is always at least one person who ends up equating everything they don't like to socialism? Are "socialism" and "communism" the only words they know? Clearly, they don't know very well the meaning of these words.

And regarding the "EU won't survive past 20XY". I've heard this argument almost non-stop from anti-EU politicians since 2007. Financial crisis, Greek debt crisis, Brexit, now coronavirus - every bad event is a good one to predict the collapse of the EU.

[jmnicolas]

I didn't mention communism nor socialism (except in the name USSR).

I compare the EU to the USSR because they're both top down bureaucracies that think they knows best and can erase nations under their rule. It works for a time but when it inevitably collapses, wars are almost a certainty.

You hear about the Euro and the UE collapse since 2007 because the process started back then.

Eastern countries don't share the liberal ideology of the west. They're in as long as money flows. Once it stops why would they let the west tell them how to think?

Then there are the southern countries (PIGS + France) that are bankrupt, the north don't want to pay. What do you think will happen when Covid can't be used to throw money at the problem any more?

Lastly look at the average European banks leverage. They won't survive another 2008.

FWIW I have skin in the game: I'm French, living in France.