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by yaacov 1618 days ago
> As of December 6, 2012, Google stopped offering the free edition to new customers.

10 years of a free product is not bad

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It's not just that I can't use them for email anymore. I wouldn't mind that.

But now I'll lose access to any purchases on my phone, my Youtube purchases and history, I need to create a new account for my phone, etc....

Maybe it's just a relic of me holding out for the Google Plus migration so long but my youtube account is a "brand account" which is definitely a thing I can transfer to another google account (indeed there were a few youtubers who got famously scammed last summer into doing this). Maybe yours is set up similarly?

Android apps will be a pain. I have apps that are no longer sold, or am grandfathered on a premium 1 time purchase for stuff that is now subscription based, etc.

Looks like that may not be possible for people in my situation. From the youtube docs:

> You can move your channel and its videos over from one account to another. Note that if your account is a supervised account or a work or school account, you cannot move your channel.

So it depends if g suite is considered a "work or school" account or not.

> Maybe it's just a relic of me holding out for the Google Plus migration so long but my youtube account is a "brand account" which is definitely a thing I can transfer to another google account (indeed there were a few youtubers who got famously scammed last summer into doing this). Maybe yours is set up similarly?

Could be. I'd have to figure this out, thanks for the heads up.

99% of the users of the free product just wanted to have their group/family/etc to use gmail with a custom domain.

That product is still free at other providers. We'll just be moving.

It will cost you dozens of hours to move your 10+ years of digital stuff. The big G has done a real pinch here.
Yes but for my family of 4 it would cost me 4612= 288$ per year! That's about 50% of my yearly unlimited fiber internet access (that also come with a free email).

For me that's the last nail in the coffin, will make sure in the future to keep away from all Google product (private or professional).

What is strange is how in a few year Google went from the cool company where everybody wanted to work to something that can almost be compared to a tobacco company.

In my case it won't, because, of course, it's all backed up locally. This Google outfit can be pretty sketchy at times - needed to make sure they didn't close down and take my stuff.
rclone FTW!
I adore rclone and am shocked every day when it just keeps working. I figured Google would have staked it through the heart years ago.
Google Takeout is not even that bad...
What providers offer 10 years of email (guessing many GB in size), plus allow using your own domain name for free?

All the one's I'm seeing are paid options, some of which get very expensive if you have more than just one or two users.

What are those other free providers?
Except they promised it would be free forever
This.

It will definitely hurt us financially as we have around 10 domains with 20 email ids. We can't delete them due to older emails but can't complain as Google did allowed free account for 10 years.

I hope there is a service Migration of emails from Gmail to other platforms.

Yes, and Hacker News calling it "killing for existing customers" is ridiculous. No service or access is being "killed" here - they are simply asking to start paying for it like everyone else.
One of the problems is that people who paid for Google Play purchases and other services have no way of migrating them to a free Gmail account.
Well not to a Gmail account (since you can't change your Google account email address), but your Google account and associated purchases is not deleted: https://support.google.com/a/answer/1257646

Just set up your MX with some other service if you are not happy with Gmail, or start running your own SMTP server.

Or from free into the Paid ones - either move you pay twice.
Wait, we'll lose our purchases even going from gsuite to workspace? Is that confirmed somewhere?
I think the parent company misunderstood the process as being required to move to a new Google account. That's not the case as far as I can tell from the support document. The account remains the same, just have to pay for the service.
"How does the upgrade affect my current G Suite legacy free edition subscription?

Your current G Suite legacy free subscriptions and related services will continue to function as they do today, until you self-upgrade or we upgrade you automatically to one of the new editions."

That "until" is really ambiguous - does that mean services terminate when you self-upgrade?

Nothing against you, but a clarification here: this is a service, not a product.
For the free service, the user was the product.

Now, the service is the product. Only since it's Googs, the user will still be a product too. Googs needs to re-watch the Seinfeld episode on double dipping.