[mstipetic]

But it’s all about personal freedoms. It’s not important there’s a planet wide climate emergency, that there’s a massive decline in wildlife population - all these things don’t matter as long as we’re all free to dick around and do what ever we want without the spooky regulators with guns telling us what to do.

[fogihujy]

Well, to be frank, it's not about the environment, and barely about national security: some places in Europe -- southern Sweden being the most notable example -- has severe energy shortages to such an extent that new businesses have to go elsewhere when they want to expand.

Other parts of Europe has a power surplus, but the grid's capacity simply isn't high enough to transfer all of it to the locations where it's needed.

As it turned out, the environmentalists' push to kill nuclear power wasn't that great since the plants were in the areas where the power was actually consumed.