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by poulsbohemian 1613 days ago
Historically, getting an employer to sponsor you for a work visa has been the biggest challenge getting into Switzerland. It's generally been easier to get into Germany. Of course your nationality may be a factor here too in terms of which countries have various visa restrictions.
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If one has an EU passport, do you even need a work visa?
No. But you can stay only 3 months without a job, and up to 5 years with a job. After having worked for 5 consecutive years you can apply for permanent residency.
This isn't quite accurate:

- You can only stay 3 months to look for a job. You can stay indefinitely without a job if you can prove you have the means to support yourself.

- You can stay in Switzerland indefinitely with a job, you just need to renew your permit every 5 years, which is essentially a rubber stamp because of freedom of movement agreements.

- You're only able to get a permanent residence permit after 5 years if you're a national of a subset of EU countries (list at [0]) or you're able to demonstrate that you're well integrated (the most burdensome criterion for that is speaking one of the canton's languages at B1 or better). Nationals of other countries who don't go for the exceptional integration pathway have to wait 10 years like most other countries.

[0]: https://www.sem.admin.ch/sem/en/home/themen/aufenthalt/eu_ef...

> You can only stay 3 months to look for a job.

This isn't quite accurate either. You can stay as a tourist, but otherwise it's a good old Catch 22: - no one will allow you to rent an apartment (and therefore get a permanent address / residency) without a job contract and without a residence permit - you won't get a residence permit without a job contract. - but if you don't have a permanent address and a residence permit, you could just as well apply for jobs from your own country, because what's the difference?

I guess it is easier to go to job interviews if you are staying at an AirBnb, but otherwise no point in staying in Switzerland, unless you are a millionaire, in which case you can support yourself anyways, so the above does not apply to you.

This is actually one noteable difference to EU countries, where you can just move to as you want, you most probably need to register but don't need to apply for a work permit separately.

PS. There is another way. Many people live in Germany, close to the Swiss border, and commute to Switzerland. But if you are a German you already knew that, and if you are not, it's probably not much easier for you to get a job this way :)

> This isn't quite accurate either. You can stay as a tourist

Unfortunately you're not accurate either.

What you're referring to (staying as a tourist) is the same 3 month limit I was talking about. An EU national can come to Switzerland for up to 3 months without doing anything special at all. After 3 months, you can apply for a short-term visa to search for work for a further 3 months [0] or you can apply for residence without gainful employment [1].

[0]: https://www.ch.ch/en/foreign-nationals-in-switzerland/workin...

[1]: https://www.ch.ch/en/foreign-nationals-in-switzerland/entry-...