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bosch is supposedly middle class in europe, siemens is the upper middle brand

it is quality engineering, but like most german engineered products it expects similarly engineered environment.

think german cars on autobahn appliances in german household with german conditions my dishwasher came with water hardness testing kit, you bet I tested my water and gave it everything it asks, salt/own washing tablet etc

They don't usually fail gracefully due to how engineered it got

I do have a whirlpool top loader from more than 20yrs ago, I can tell it's designed to fail gracefully and I dread the day it dies and I'd have to replace it with a 5yr lifespan crap.

(when you overload the whirlpool machine, it's a plastic part that breaks rather than taking down the motor by hard coupling with a metal part. when i just had to replace a $7 part I wish I could buy the engineer a beer.)