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by koyote 1618 days ago
That's not a very good argument: "made with" implies that it is one of several ingredients. If Cheezits said "made entirely of" then the consumer would be understandably confused if there are other ingredients. Think about what you would answer to the questions "Did you make this pizza WITH sourdough?" vs "Is this cake made entirely OF lego?".

If the car can't "fully" self drive, then it shouldn't be marketed as such. Call it "partially self driving", "assisted self driving" or whatever.
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Johnny555 1618 days ago
That depends on your definition of driving, for example, take the dictionary definition:

"To guide, control, or direct (a vehicle)."

My car has driver assistance features, it can do basic lane keeping, keep a set distance behind the car in front (even in stop and go traffic), and has emergency braking assistance. But no one would say that it's self-driving.

Tesla FSD can control the car from entering the highway to taking your exit (plus some support for driving on smaller streets).

But it's not autonomous, hands-free driving.

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koyote 1618 days ago
I am not sure I understand the argument here as what you said highlights that Tesla's FSD is not fully self driving.

Taking the dictionary definition of fully:

"completely or entirely; to the fullest extent"

I would expect a fully self-driving car to drive for the entirety of any trip I wish to take. Anything less than that I would consider as "partial".

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Johnny555 1618 days ago
The car can fully self drive -- it has full control over steering and brakes, can pass other cars and even enter/exit the highway.

My car has limited self-driving, it can only do limited lane keeping or keeping distance from the car in front.

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koyote 1618 days ago
So you're defining it as the capability to automate steering, accelerator and brake? (i.e. the three things that constitute driving)

By that definition self-parking cars can also fully self-drive.

My definition of driving is being able to do all the tasks required to pass a driving test, i.e. driving around a city (intersections, roundabouts etc.), motorway, country road and car parks.

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