[kaba0]

Good luck with that for them..

Java is in the unique position of excellent performance (state of the art GC, very good JIT compiler) and observability with no-overhead real time options. Due to the language having multiple implementations of a standard and it being one of the top 3 biggest ecosystem, it is nothing like Cobol. You can say it is legacy for 3 decades to come, but it will not die. Hell, it improves with a never-before seen speed.

[yencabulator]

Now you seem to have switched the conversation of "Java projects tend to be overly complex" to "Java is great". Common talking point, and you have a lot of people who will agree with you, but pretty much unrelated to the topic.

[kaba0]

My original point was that abstractions are not evil, hell, without them we would only have calculators, not computers.

Go not having too high abstraction power, while can be an advantage (as per the creator, not my words, you can throw as many bad developers at a project as you want), but it is a disadvantage as well, because then you will have the logic in distributed places, copied verbatim etc, hindering maintainability, understanding the original intent, new dev onboarding, everything.

[yencabulator]

These words are bandied around a lot by people outside the Go community, while the people who end up actually using Go a lot tend to say it's the most readable code they've worked with in their lives. shrug