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by peteradio 1606 days ago
> However, that choice has contributed to the deaths of people I know

It was not a choice many people took to get the virus prior to vaccine availability, and these people would be taking extra risk to get vaccinated (excluded from trials) so you are spewing rage at them for what? Because of an error of incorrect application of priors?
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crispypotatoes 1606 days ago
Availability has nothing to do with what I've said and I think you know I'm not speaking to that group

If you have access and you deliberately turn it down over nothing AFTER the trial phase, that's who I'm raging at

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yucky 1606 days ago
>deliberately turn it down over nothing AFTER the trial phase

Not as an argument against the vaccine, but maybe to help enlighten why many have chosen not to get vaccinated; keep in mind that the FDA approval letter for the Pfizer vaccine indicates that long term testing is not projected to be complete until June 2025. https://www.fda.gov/media/151710/download

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crispypotatoes 1606 days ago
The same thing is being said about long COVID

Either way, you're risking long-term side effects, I'd rather go with the tried and tested technology we have here

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peteradio 1606 days ago
Recovered people were excluded from trials so conclusion of trials says nothing for them. What percent of vaccine holdouts do you reckon have already been infected? If that is a significant percentage, realize your anger is being channeled into restrictions against these people you are not speaking to.
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crispypotatoes 1606 days ago
> What percent of vaccine holdouts do you reckon have already been infected?

I'm not going to sit here and guess

You have the information to work this one out yourself if you like and none of these comments make any sense mate

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peteradio 1606 days ago
So you don't have those numbers on hand? It seems crucial, if 100% of unvaccinated have already recovered then what is to be gained by vaccinating now?
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crispypotatoes 1606 days ago
> It seems crucial, if 100% of unvaccinated have already recovered then what is to be gained by vaccinating now?

Except we know this isn't the case at all lmao

Elsewhere in the thread it's stated in AUS that 50% of COVID admissions are from the 8% unvaccinated population, that's about enough to prove the point here and I don't need to go any further

You're also seeing more and more cases like this crop up - https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/frighten...

Vaccines work. They reduce severity, transmission and the chance of death.

It's on you to prove your point with some actual facts now, instead of more questions missing the point entirely.

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peteradio 1606 days ago
Just wanted to make sure we were on the same page about numbers mattering.

I guess you are in Australia? Australia may well have successfully suppressed natural immunity. In my own country we have large swaths pre-omicron who have natural antibodies: https://covid19serohub.nih.gov/

Now you seem to be expecting these folks to be vaccinated with a drug that has specifically excluded them from the trials. Drug recommendations ought to be coupled with safety testing on the impacted group.

If you can find me Pfizer/Moderna trial studies which show specific impact on recovered individuals I will never post again.

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