[marcosdumay]

> The rewards are great if you can survive…

Part of what makes a place dysfunctional is that the rewards have no correlation with performance or impact.

Then there is stuff like this:

> People who want to study earthquakes need to go where there are fault lines. People who want to solve hard problems need to go where those problems live.

Sure, if you want to learn about dysfunctional places, go into them. Learning about them isn't a priority for most people, and if you have a technical profession (not administrative), it would be a hobby at most. So, do you enjoy it there?

[tonyedgecombe]

>Sure, if you want to learn about dysfunctional places, go into them.

I'm not sure how much you can learn, the number of ways organisations can be dysfunctional has no bounds. It's like that quote from Tolstoy about families:

"Happy families are all alike; every unhappy family is unhappy in its own way."

[melony]

People who study earthquakes also get paid peanuts.

[tonyedgecombe]

Sometimes they even get sent to jail:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/oct/23/jailing-italia...

[marcosdumay]

Yeah, but learning about earthquakes is a high priority to them.

Learning about dysfunctional organization can be high priority to administrators, not to technical careers. It's basically useless knowledge for technical careers.