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by sizzle 1608 days ago
How does the full torque electric acceleration compare to your Porsches? Really curious how an owner of both can describe the feeling.
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They're very different experiences. My 911 does 0-60 in around 3.2s, whereas the Y is about 4.2s now that it has the optional acceleration boost. So the 911 still feels considerably faster when it's at the peak of the power curve with the turbos fully spooled. It's a lot more work to extract the power though: you've got to be high in the rev range, get the turbos spooled up, shift the gears yourself (it's a manual), etc. And that's not necessarily a bad thing: extracting the performance like that is fun.

But it's also fun to just mat the throttle at any moment and have the vehicle leap forward, which is the electric thing. Even with the long range, it feels like you can go from a near stop to significant speed instantaneously. (Although one downside of that is that it starts to feel slower in comparison as you build speed, whereas the 911 Turbo is the opposite.) Also the traction control system is fantastic. It doesn't have the handling of the 911 (or the S2000), but it does start and stop on a dime, even in the wet. So you can extract a lot of performance out of it, but you need to drive it differently to do so.

I've autocrossed all three cars and tracked the 911 and S2000; each requires a significantly different driving style to get the most out of it. The S is a momentum car with crazy cornering capability, so it's all early apexes and maintaining speed. The Model Y is the exact opposite. You basically want to drive in straight lines, shortest path. Brake hard in a straight line to bring the weight to the front, short, tight corner, then hammer the throttle and straighten out, and let the traction control send the torque where it can go. If you try to carry speed through the corner it'll just push (understeer). The Turbo is somewhere in-between. On a big track it's the fastest of the three, but on an autocross course the S2000 and probably even the Y, if the course is tight or it's wet, have it beat.

Thanks for the thoughtful overview from a real driver’s point of view.

Is Porsche electrifying their cars? Would you get an all electric 911? Do you think electric is the future or some hybrid approach with instant electric torque replacing turbo spooling downsides?

Porsche is planning to electrify all their models, yes. I expect the next generation 911 will be hybrid. Not sure if this is what you were saying, but hybrid powertrains can work well with turbos because the electric motors can fill in the torque gap while the turbos are spooling up.

In the short to medium term I definitely think we'll see a mix of hybrid and full electric in sports/super cars, because full electric still comes with a significant weight penalty, and the charging makes track driving difficult. I expect most standard passenger cars to go full electric pretty quickly though, and eventually all but low volume and special purpose vehicles will probably get there.

> Is Porsche electrifying their cars?

They have been producing the Taycan EV for a few years now.

It is expensive and range is OK but not great. Probably an amazing driving experience.

Porsche is way out of my price range, Model 3 LR was a stretch but I have been very happy with the car.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porsche_Taycan