[beaconstudios]

Labour is doing productive things, work is employment. Antiwork and other related things like "the abolition of work" by Bob Black are against wage labour and capitalist exploitation moreso than the need to do things to keep the world turning.

[SuoDuanDao]

Do they offer any alternative? I'm all for payment shifting from 'buts in seats' to 'paid for productivity' if there's proper allowance for taking time for quality, but somehow that doesn't seem the kind of direction people are thinking in.

[beaconstudios]

"paid for productivity" is not on the table for anarchists because it's still capitalism and anarchists are anti capitalist.

[SuoDuanDao]

Except the AnCaps, but I predict they'll split with the Randians any day now and drop off the map.

[beaconstudios]

Most anarchists don't recognise anarchocapitalism as a legitimate form of anarchism because anarchism is against coercive hierarchy and capitalism is inherently coercive. Plus a real life ancapistan would inevitably devolve into feudalism.

Also a lot of them are Hoppeans and that just makes them authoritarians.

[_oghd]

collective ownership is the alternative. abolition of private property. it's the core idea of anarchist and anti-capitalist thought.

[iratewizard]

Collectively owning nothing and creating a power vacuum that will be filled by violent psychopaths. We all saw how Chaz went.

[LesZedCB]

LOL chaz, really? try harder.

if you want to read about how anarchists want to restructure society, read about spain's 1936 revolution.

[Apocryphon]

Or heck, just about Spain's Mondragon Corporation.