[jessaustin]

...just 3% of Hispanics and Latinos would describe their group using the term “Latinx.”

It's a great neologism; mispronounced (identically) in both Spanish and English! I said this word twice before I was strongly encouraged not to do so by those it theoretically describes.

[s1artibartfast]

Better yet is its replacement, "Latin@", which can not be pronounced at all.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2013/01/07/168818064...

>The University of Wisconsin uses it this way in the official name for its Department of Latin@ and Chican@ Studies. Karma Chavez, a professor there, said that the push toward gender neutrality in Spanish has been going on for decades.

>OK, but how would you actually say it aloud?

>"Well, this is where things get complicated," Chavez said. "Most people end up just saying Chicano and Chicana."

[rayiner]

> >The University of Wisconsin uses it this way in the official name for its Department of Latin@ and Chican@ Studies. Karma Chavez, a professor there, said that the push toward gender neutrality in Spanish has been going on for decades.

I love it when NPR segues to an ethnic studies professor to present the “POC view.” Professor Chavez attained tenure by winning the favor of the University of Wisconsin faculty—which, outside the engineering department, has got to be one of the whitest group of people in the country apart from NPR management.

[xyzzyz]

> whitest group of people in the country apart from NPR management.

Yeah, Fox News viewers are more racially diverse than NPR audience.

[tptacek]

Comparing a cable news channel to a public radio station could get you that result just from a sample size effect, couldn't it?

[xyzzyz]

Both have sample sizes in millions of people, not sure what you mean here. Simply said, Fox News appeals to wider diversity of viewers than NPR.

[tptacek]

My point would be that by it's nature, regardless of content, NPR appeals to a different set of listeners than Fox News does. The useful comparison would be between NPR and talk radio, which seems easy: there's a lot of conservative talk radio.

[s1artibartfast]

Not sure if this is sarcasm, but may be true

[rayiner]

Fox’s viewership is older and whiter than NPR’s. But Fox’s popularity means that even Black Democrats are much more likely to watch Fox than to listen to NPR (or read the NYT): https://www.pewresearch.org/journalism/2020/03/11/black-and-.... About 1/3 of Black democrats get political news from Fox. Just 10% get political news from NPR.

> One way that black Democrats break out of the media bubble is that roughly a third (36%) get political news from Fox News, which, according to the Center’s survey data, has an audience that leans to the right politically. That contrasts sharply with the 17% of white Democrats who get political news from Fox.

> In using sources for political news, black Democrats are also more inclined to turn to ABC News (53%) and CBS News (46%) than white Democrats (35% and 34%, respectively). White Democrats, however, are much more inclined to get political news from The New York Times (39%) than their black counterparts (12%). The same pattern holds for NPR (43% vs. 10%) and The Washington Post (32% vs. 13%).

[xyzzyz]

No, this is not sarcasm, it is factually true.

[selimthegrim]

https://tulanehullabaloo.com/57213/intersections/opinion-lat...

[rayiner]

“Latine” suffers from the same problem, which is that it’s mainly driven by the concerns and politics of highly educated white people, along with the small fraction of minorities who rely on highly educated white people for jobs, platforms, etc. The overwhelming majority of Hispanics speak a gendered language, think that’s fine, and don’t see a problem that needs solving.

I’m not opposed to “identity politics”—but I think as it’s practiced in America it’s often parasitic. Activists—often in league with white elites—trade on the group’s political capital to advance views that are unrelated to or may be directly opposed to the interests of the group. It’s morally wrong to use a minority group’s political capital for ends that aren’t aligned with what the group wants.

For example, in the context of this article: Hispanics are more supportive of increased policing than whites: https://thehill.com/hilltv/what-americas-thinking/562738-pol.... Over the years surveys have shown this repeatedly: the majority supported stop and frisk in NYC when it existed; they were the least supportive of ending mandatory minimums, etc. Couching anti-police activism in terms of what “Latinx” or “brown” people want is just putting ethnic window dressing on white progressivism.